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Alejandro thank you so much for joining

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me today on somewhere in the skies

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it is my absolute pleasure to be here

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thank you so much for having me

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my pleasure the the main reason I'm

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having you here man is I'm so bummed I'm

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not going to be able to make it this

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year to the Congress this has been a

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huge huge part of my life for a while

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now and I have you to thank for that for

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giving me involved and I'm just so

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excited to see that it's still

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continuing on and that you and Karen are

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sort of at the helm now this is your

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baby as it were so this is September 4th

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through the 8th in downtown Phoenix the

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2019 International UFO Congress how you

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feelin man the countdown is on I know

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this is that you know down in the

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trenches for us I mean from here on out

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it's crazy because first of all setting

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up is crazy there's so much to do right

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now I'm printing DVDs you know with

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likley we have some friends coming over

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where we've we've gonna be stuffing the

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DVD covers and there's just so much

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right now our house is full of boxes

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because you know we have to order all

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the stuff that will be taking over there

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so it's just frantic busy busy busy

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doing this and that you know right now

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which is kind of exciting but it also

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nerve-racking I'm putting together to

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award to the film's you know because

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what we'll do is we give away research

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over the year and of course

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controversial when a couple years ago it

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Tom DeLonge that's probably our most

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famous one and then we do Lifetime

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Achievement Awards so those are kind of

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nerve-wracking because they are you know

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you want to do a really good job with

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them I'm not like a video guy we used to

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have Michael Klein and and Tom Ruffin an

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open mind to our you know career video

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people and so I know I can I think write

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something pretty decent but that's even

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nerve-racking because you don't want to

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leave out anything good so so everything

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is you know all the details get kind of

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nerve-racking so it's it's crazy right

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now it'll be crazy until the whole

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thing's over

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and and so yeah yeah I'm living in a

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world of crazy I can only imagine well

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you know what I don't realize what goes

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into these things yeah this is like this

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is broken the world record for being the

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largest UFO conference in North America

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so many times so I mean we're not

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talking we're not talking like a dozen

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people showing up to a stuffy little

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room I mean those things that people

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make it through this thing every year

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I'm always astounded when I yeah I

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spoken once at the event and I can tell

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you man I was I've been acting my whole

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life I've traveled the country

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performing for for audiences and I have

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never been as nervous as I was when I

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spoke about Congress well hey I mean

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it's my people you know it's the UFO

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people so they this isn't like you're

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speaking to someone who's never heard

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this stuff before these people know

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their stuff so I I remember being

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backstage and just like you know clammy

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hands and I'm sweating and they're

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trying to put a microphone on me and I'm

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just like hey plus it was the first time

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I'd ever spoken about UFOs in public

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uh-huh

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so you gave me my start man and it's

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it's no easy task so I I think the the

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biggest thing that in sets this apart

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from the other congresses is this is now

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taking place in a completely different

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location than before so how did you guys

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what made you decide to move it to

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downtown Phoenix this is awesome well

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that's what's funny about this you know

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last location and it was gorgeous it was

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beautiful I you know we were fortunate

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to get an incredible deal but when we

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got that deal it was in the middle of

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the recession and now things are looking

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much better so prices have gone up and

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out here that is primetime you know

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February March when the weather is

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amazing out here in Phoenix and it's

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snowy and rainy and awful everywhere

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else everybody wants to come here for

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their events and so its prime location

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so we had to leave because it wasn't big

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enough and because

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prices were going up so much so I've

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always been of the mind personally that

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Vegas is the place to go because we just

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couldn't there wasn't a venue really

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that fit here in Phoenix but there were

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so many people when I told them that

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that were like no keep it in Arizona and

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there was so much of an outcry to keep

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it here that Karen who is now the new

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owner decided that to listen to them and

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try to keep it here and so we were

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fortunate enough that we were able to

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the best location we were able to find

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was with the Sheraton downtown which is

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in the heart of Phoenix you know right

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across from the Convention Center and it

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kind of was like our dream because we've

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always thought you know it'd be cool to

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make you know like a UFO comic-con type

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of thing that we we get really big so

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that was the idea so it's it's cool that

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you know and I think the media is gonna

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pay more attention because it's in the

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heart it's in their space and it's right

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where they do business so they just have

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to walk down the street you know to come

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interview us and everything so we're

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hoping to get more media in fact we've

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heard from a lot of the media who of

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course we like them to do something

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early on but they're kind of waiting to

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get closer to the event but we might be

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on a local show this this weekend so yes

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so that's kind of how it all came about

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really pricing and availability and this

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hotel allows for scalability and and the

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prices are pretty decent that's awesome

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I mean there's no better feeling than

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didn't know like you're kind of

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outgrowing something in a way you know

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there's yeah demand and I mean UFOs are

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bigger now than they've been in a really

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long time and we'll get to that because

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a lot of the people involved with making

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that happen making this huge cultural

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shift in the past few years are gonna be

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speaking at your event - right - of

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those that really stick out to me right

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now are synonymous with with area 51 and

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that's of course George NAB the guy who

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helped break the original story and kind

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of the guy breaking the story for a new

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generation

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Jeremie Korbel in his documentary film

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bob lazar so what are these two guys

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gonna be doing at your event I was

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really excited to see that they're both

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gonna be there you know I think that the

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way you framed that was so good that

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Jeremy is kind of breaking area51 to a

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new generation and he really is so

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George is gonna be a doing what George

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does and what's really excited most of

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us lately which is he's gonna be

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breaking a tip news about the Pentagon

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UFO program and he has been the number

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one source really for breaking news way

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more so than even to the stars when it

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comes to a tip and why do I say to the

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stars your listeners are probably aware

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that you know the guy who ran a tip is

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now working for to the stars but Lou

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Elizondo is is careful about what he

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presents and he can't share information

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or he's not willing to share information

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that isn't his to share but luckily

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George Knapp has been doing the digging

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he's got great connections he's close

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with Harry Reid and he's been able to

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get some of these documents and

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information out that that Lou has been

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reticent to get out himself and so

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that's great cuz once it happens then

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Lou is able to talk about it because you

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know the information is out in the

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public so George is going to be talking

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about a tip and giving us more news and

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information I believe and he says he has

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something new and good to give us so

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that'll be really exciting and you know

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George Knapp there's it's funny because

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you've seen it out there there's a lot

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of negativity towards to the stars and

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that has bled over to many of the people

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reporting on this including myself and

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others and George which is kind of

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George has kind of been untouchable

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there you know you don't get a lot of

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criticism because there shouldn't be

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because he's excellent at what he does

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he's got a ton of awards and it's kind

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of a funny situation right now where

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people are kind of blaming him of being

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driven by to the stars and kind of

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somehow supporting them when really he's

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doing his job and he's breaking news

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related to you

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foes in the credibility credible kind of

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arena they've gotten in so it's gonna be

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interesting to hear what he has to say

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cuz I think he's gonna reference some of

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the critics that have been online too to

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speak to what he sees and I see is kind

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of silly arguments kind of really the

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trying to defame anybody associated for

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reasons unknown I can't even understand

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it well what we're doing it's just you

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know revealing the facts and that's all

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that that George is doing and what he's

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revealing is groundbreaking

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so what is doing is great so it'll be

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kind of fun to hear him kind of hear his

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opinion about some of the the noisy

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negative as Stanton Friedman would say

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oh yeah God residential Jeremy is got a

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cool talk he's calling Clockwork Orange

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UFOs are Clockwork Orange is what he

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calls it and this is gonna be kind of

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interesting I think he essentially says

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he's gonna look into the more exotic

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events and ideas around artificial

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intelligence and I think he's kind of

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gonna go into maybe you know some of

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these aliens or UFOs are you know the

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result of artificial intelligence so

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that's kind of interesting but in

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relation to area 51 like you mentioned

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before he's also going to bring us some

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late-breaking information as far as the

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storm area 51 so he has been it was his

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documentary that inspired the meme that

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is so famous out there to storm area 51

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and so you know people obviously have

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been coming to him hey you know this

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thing's going on what are we gonna do

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and his thing is to try to make sure

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there's a venue at this event and that

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is educational and safe because this is

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all about education this is you know

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supposed to be about wanting to know

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what is that area 51 and the AI and

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information about UFOs plus it's in the

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desert you know there's no services

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around so he wants to make sure that

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everyone is safe and taken care of so

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that's been his focus and so he's been

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just recently you know it was announced

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she's working with the alien research

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center and so he's going to be talking

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about that and interesting enough you

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know if you go to the the website for

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Rachel Nevada the city the city says

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don't come here to Rachel these people

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are coming here are not invited our

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residents are gonna have their guns

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ready to protect their property they

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don't want you here

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but go to the alien Research Center

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they've got something going on go over

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there so even the city of Rachel is

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supporting the alien Research Center so

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we heard more about the plans for the

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air storm area51 from jeremy as well

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interesting yeah I mean this thing

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literally took us all by storm

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he has the pun this came out of nowhere

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and it just shows like the power of

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social media within a night this all

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happened and you know a lot of people

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are criticizing those trying to start

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these this alien stock as it were you

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know this big festival that they yeah or

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whatnot but or like it's an instant cash

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grab but I mean let's be honest if

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you're living in the middle of the

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desert somewhere and there's the

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possibility of like thousands of people

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showing up to to throw their money at

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you to get some get some information

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about you know UFOs or area 51 like of

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course they're gonna take advantage of

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that so yeah you know I've heard a lot

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of criticism oh this is just another

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cash grab for those who talk about bob

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lazar area 51 or this that but you know

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you and I have both personally spoken do

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to people like Jeremy Korbel and others

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trying to do this stuff and they are

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being very careful they almost feel a

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responsibility now to to make sure this

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goes off safely I mean you and I both

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know there are gonna be some idiots who

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actually try to storm those gates and

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yeah I think they're gonna be not

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surprised but they're gonna be very

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there it's a rude awakening trust me I

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was out there not too long ago and you

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do not want a mess for those people and

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not just the guards at the base but like

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you said the the locals in Reichle like

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these

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your everyday people who are just gonna

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say uh you know

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please don't come out here that they

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will shoot you yeah that's what's funny

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I think that the the law enforcement

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gonna have a strong presence they've

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said in the news recently I think of

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it's George Knapp who even was writing

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about that this week but I think that

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they will have a strong presence in and

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that will be alone a major deterrent

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it's one thing to pass those gates when

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there's nobody there or there's a truck

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you know half a mile away up on a hill

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it's another thing when there's a line

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of guys with with weapons you know right

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there at the gate so I think that that

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will be a large to turn and I do

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appreciate the idea of hey let's not

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storm the gate let's party yeah and

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there certainly are opportunists and for

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better or worse who are looking to make

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money but what's great is Jeremy's focus

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which has been to educate and to make

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sure that people are safe and and I'm

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glad that he's had that focus and he's

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probably had an influence and making

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sure there are safe places for people

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but beyond that and the end if this

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becomes like a Coachella you know of

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area 51 where it's a big area 51

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festival that's not necessarily bad I

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either because it does bring awareness

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to and you know it makes people realize

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that there are a lot of people

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interested in the information about what

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might be out there what is out there and

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what is what is being hidden from us

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when it comes to this topic of UFOs so

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that would be I think it'd be kind of

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cool to have this yearly kind of

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festival thing yeah I'm all for it I

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mean unfortunately I'm gonna be at

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another conference that same weekend but

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if this becomes a yearly thing you can

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bet I'll be flying out there for this

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thing every I'm excited well you did

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bring up a tip and I didn't want to

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cover one other gentleman who's going to

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be at your event who's been heavily

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looked into this and has broken some

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exclusives about a tip and that's Brian

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bender how how did this happen I was so

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surprised to see this well you'll notice

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he's

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off the list now oh and this is really

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unfortunate he's not going to be able to

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do it however I don't know if he even

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wanted me to share that this or not but

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I'm going to so I know that he's gonna

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be passing by the conference that's

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important hanging out there and

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hopefully even writing a story and

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essentially you know we've been come

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friends because as we've been he's

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gotten attacked as well so people have

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been attacking and I am so honored that

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they're grouping me in but they've been

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attacking as a group George and Brian

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who don't even know each other

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Lesley Kane and who I don't think he

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knows Lesley Kane either and so we

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started talking you know DMing each

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other a little bit as we were kind of

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filming these attacks and it turns out

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he lives nearby so we ended up eating

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meeting for lunch and now we've become

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friends we've had dinner and lunch

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several times over the last few weeks so

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yeah so he's been toying with the idea

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and I've been telling him man you have

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not met George George's awesome it would

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be a dream come true if I could you know

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we could all you George and I have this

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conversation on the stage about so

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people could get like the differences

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between them and and he was all for it

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but unfortunately and he even you know

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said go ahead and post it sent us

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information but unfortunately isn't

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going to be able to do it in the end but

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I think it would have been important

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because kind of like what I was talking

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about earlier

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bender could care less he really isn't

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has no dog in the race when pony in the

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race when it comes to UFOs he's it's

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kind of a it's an interesting story

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because there's interesting news about

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it coming out especially in Washington

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DC which is what Politico focuses on

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he's been able to ask some lawmakers in

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Washington about the topic and so it

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makes for interesting stories and that's

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what he likes he doesn't know you know

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one way or another what's going on but

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there's some interesting information as

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for supporting to the stars he could

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care less of course he

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he's a good guy he wants everybody to be

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successful but he's not you know it's up

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to them to be successful it's not up to

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Brian to help them be successful Brian's

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just reporting on the story so I would

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have loved to have brought them because

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they're sourcing is very different to so

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for instance when bender first met the

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group essentially Elizondo and Chris

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Mellon and they shared some information

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with him he then went to vet those vet

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these guys of course Chris Mellon

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doesn't need any vetting because Chris

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Mullins amazing and has a huge

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background and is a very credible and

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you know person who's been in the

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defense industry for a long time and in

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Washington but Elizondo he doesn't know

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so he went in and you know he's been a

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war reporter and writing on defense for

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years so he's got tons of contacts and

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he checked with his contacts on the

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inside and they said yeah this is a real

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deal you know they Harry Reed wanted

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this UFO investigation group and so he

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put it together and it was ran by this

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Elizondo and everything so that's how he

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vetted it the difference is of course

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George Knapp has been friends with

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Bigelow who has been part of this since

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the beginning since it was both Bigelow

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Aerospace that was contracted to work

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with a tip so George has already known

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about the credibility and that this is

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all going on so that's what's

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interesting they come from two totally

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different perspectives on this and and

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the way they've approached the story has

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been completely different that their

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facts are similar and those facts being

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that Elizondo has been telling the truth

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and so has Harry Reid and all of the

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people related to it as far as the

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details that's just you know the facts

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that they've discovered through various

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sources that you know that's the way it

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is people I don't know why people want

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to freak out and be weird about it but

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that's what would have been fun to bring

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them up on the stage especially when I

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think that would have been the first

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time they met oh wow that's such a big

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platform that would have been amazing

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well yeah

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anything can happen who knows but yeah

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I'm sure in the future we'll be able to

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get him at one of these UFO conferences

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for sure yeah yeah I hope no he's made

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some amazing contributions so far and I

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know they've really only begun I mean

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you've got bender you've got a Tyler

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rogue away doing some amazing things

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over at the the war zone that drive UFO

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coverage has never you know really been

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so strong I think in terms of objective

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journalism and research and taking the

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topic seriously and yes there are

510
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detractors there always are but I think

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once we keep moving forward and finding

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common ground hopefully everyone can

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start really working together now I I

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respect both ends of the spectrum you

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know I've had those who are a little

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more on the air on the side of extreme

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skepticism when it comes to to this

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stars I've had them on my show and I've

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had those who firmly support everything

520
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to the Stars is doing and you know as

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someone kind of sitting back and

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watching it play out while a lot of

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other extremely diligent researchers and

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journalists are out there digging I'm

525
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just looking forward to where this all

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goes it's it's such an exciting time to

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be in the UFO field and to see all these

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things happening and whether you like

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them or not we do have talking too long

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to think for that we truly do exactly

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you're exactly right and you know this

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wouldn't have happened without him and

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and it is happening which is

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extraordinary and and it is funny

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because it's such important stuff that

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we've wanted for the UFO field for so

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long or so many people have wanted out

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there and so I think everybody's taken

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aback a little bit about the negativity

540
00:23:12,169 --> 00:23:10,920
but then if you look at what Bigelow

541
00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:12,179
went through he went through the same

542
00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:13,260
thing he went through a lot of

543
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:15,809
negativity in fact he essentially left

544
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:18,450
dealing with the UFO community because

545
00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:20,670
it was there's a it was a lose-lose

546
00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:22,100
situation and

547
00:23:26,590 --> 00:23:24,020
may happen again and if it does happen

548
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:26,600
again it's no one's fault except for the

549
00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:29,450
UFO community itself and they may get

550
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:33,799
lost in left in the dust and hey you can

551
00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:36,490
either choose to participate or not and

552
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:39,830
participation means to discovery with

553
00:23:44,049 --> 00:23:41,630
working with teams and working with

554
00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:44,059
others and it means you know everyone

555
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:45,860
working together to to discover

556
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,650
information as opposed of siloing

557
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:51,200
yourself and starting battles and fights

558
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:53,750
that just kind of make us chase our

559
00:23:57,820 --> 00:23:56,210
tails there's real work being done out

560
00:23:59,470 --> 00:23:57,830
there and it's important to focus on

561
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,480
that because if you do focus on that

562
00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:02,000
like you said it's gonna be a wild ride

563
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:03,350
and there's gonna be a lot of great

564
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,530
information I know a man and I am riding

565
00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:09,200
that wave as long as possible well in

566
00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:11,320
terms of the real work being done

567
00:24:15,549 --> 00:24:13,580
another person I was really excited to

568
00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:15,559
see that you're having is chase glutes

569
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,140
key now a lot of people know her from

570
00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:21,200
her field investigation work but a lot

571
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:22,460
of people may not know that she's

572
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:25,850
actually working in DC now lobbying

573
00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:29,390
about UFOs I mean this is so cool I was

574
00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:31,940
I was in DC recently and we were gonna

575
00:24:36,399 --> 00:24:33,830
grab some coffee we weren't able to do

576
00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:36,409
it but when I heard what she was doing I

577
00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:38,600
was like finally finally there are

578
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:40,280
people out there people like Steven

579
00:24:45,159 --> 00:24:43,010
Bassett and and chase cholesky really

580
00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:45,169
trying to get into the inner you know

581
00:24:49,570 --> 00:24:47,780
the inner workings of Congress and where

582
00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:49,580
I think a lot of this change could

583
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:52,070
really happen I mean it's one thing to

584
00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:55,850
tell a UFO story or to storm area51 but

585
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:58,070
it's another to like really go to the

586
00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:01,039
people who make policies about these

587
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:02,780
things or could potentially make

588
00:25:07,659 --> 00:25:05,840
policies about these things and convince

589
00:25:10,270 --> 00:25:07,669
them that there's something to look at

590
00:25:13,779 --> 00:25:10,280
and I mean we have representatives now

591
00:25:16,990 --> 00:25:13,789
talking in the public about wanting to

592
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:17,000
know more about UFOs so what what is

593
00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:18,710
chase gonna be talking about I'm so

594
00:25:23,549 --> 00:25:21,500
excited about this yeah chase is great

595
00:25:25,870 --> 00:25:23,559
so her title is called the UFO

596
00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:25,880
game-changers and essentially she's

597
00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:27,260
gonna be talking about what we were just

598
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,230
talking about why has this changed like

599
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:32,480
you said why are these warm lawmakers

600
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:35,190
talking about UFOs why

601
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,680
are these things changing and who are

602
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:40,320
the people who made these changes happen

603
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:41,970
and that's what Chase is gonna be

604
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:44,190
discussing so she's kind of vague about

605
00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:47,010
it and I think that's not by design

606
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:49,860
because she wants to not kind of tip her

607
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:52,890
hat as to what she's going to be

608
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:55,230
discussing in full but I'm really

609
00:25:59,660 --> 00:25:57,690
excited about it essentially because she

610
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,670
lives in Washington DC now she is a

611
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:02,640
registered lobbyist and she has been

612
00:26:08,030 --> 00:26:05,400
speaking with lawmakers herself about

613
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:08,040
UFO development so she's gonna be

614
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:10,050
sharing with us look guys the landscape

615
00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:12,930
has changed here's why here's the people

616
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:15,030
who made this change happen and how they

617
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:16,710
did it and I think that's gonna be

618
00:26:21,650 --> 00:26:19,650
fascinating it is and I mean I know one

619
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:21,660
of the people she probably spoke to at

620
00:26:27,770 --> 00:26:24,930
some point is a Kevin day someone that

621
00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:27,780
I've recently been in touch with too in

622
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:29,880
terms of his involvement with the the

623
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:33,690
nimitz incident and you know Kevin's

624
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:35,820
been seen on a couple of TV shows now at

625
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:38,970
this point maybe a conference or two but

626
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:40,710
I'm so excited to see that he's actually

627
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:42,090
gonna be giving like a full-length

628
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:45,720
presentation a Q&A as well at your event

629
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:48,120
so this is great what do you make of

630
00:26:51,220 --> 00:26:49,770
Kevin I know you've had him on your show

631
00:26:54,650 --> 00:26:51,230
in the past

632
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,660
Kevin is awesome Kevin is one of the

633
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:56,580
coolest people he's a really nice guy

634
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:00,000
he's intelligent he's patient you know

635
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:03,510
and he's just a really good person he's

636
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:04,380
a really neat guy

637
00:27:11,660 --> 00:27:08,610
so I'm very excited about it you know he

638
00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:11,670
has created a little controversy in

639
00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:14,190
saying that he has had some emotional

640
00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:18,150
effects due to his involvement with all

641
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:19,500
of this hey being a radar operator

642
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:22,890
essentially the guy who you know for

643
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,410
like a really he's the one who vectored

644
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:27,120
in he's the one who said okay you know

645
00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:29,690
flavor you got to come in and you know

646
00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:33,390
vector ed Suarez telling beginning the

647
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:35,820
the vectoring in or showing them where

648
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:39,170
to go to you know see these objects and

649
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,020
any Psalm over a period of time so he'll

650
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:45,240
be sharing you know what he experienced

651
00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:47,370
and I think that it's important for

652
00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:48,550
people too

653
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:50,560
here you know what kind of effects ease

654
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:52,930
have the sort of thing he talks about is

655
00:27:58,650 --> 00:27:55,330
that it's his job to make sure that

656
00:28:00,420 --> 00:27:58,660
airspace is safe for our guys at all

657
00:28:01,950 --> 00:28:00,430
times and when there's something

658
00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:01,960
invading that airspace and you don't

659
00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:03,220
know what it is and you can't do

660
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:06,190
anything about it that especially at the

661
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:08,350
end of your career like it was for Kevin

662
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:13,270
when he he was you know retiring and you

663
00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:15,040
know that can affect you and it did

664
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:18,340
affect him greatly and you know Sean

665
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:20,350
Cahill who was another witness who lives

666
00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:22,960
in San Diego I've recently talked to him

667
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,700
and he's talked about this too about how

668
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:26,080
you know he's talked to a lot of

669
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:28,150
military guys where these UFO encounters

670
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:30,940
really has a great effect on them and so

671
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:33,010
it's kind of a thing and I could get it

672
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:35,950
so that's what's great about Kevin he's

673
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:38,380
a very thoughtful open person

674
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:41,890
he's you know kind of have these that of

675
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:43,540
the military I don't know how he was in

676
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:45,670
it but he's faced his emotions to

677
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:47,430
understand what's going on there and

678
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:50,440
he's recognized that you know this has

679
00:28:56,150 --> 00:28:53,470
had an effect on him so I think that's

680
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:56,160
kind of an important part of his message

681
00:29:00,750 --> 00:28:58,570
besides you know obviously the

682
00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:00,760
incredible encounters that he was

683
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:03,400
involved with right and I mean when we

684
00:29:09,570 --> 00:29:05,410
first got these videos the gimbal they

685
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:09,580
are the tic tac all the go-fast even you

686
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:12,370
know it's nothing but just a video and

687
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:14,440
it's cool dry and everything but then

688
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,350
when you start to attach the testimony

689
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:19,360
of those who actually witnessed it

690
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,310
that's a whole other piece of the puzzle

691
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:23,440
and then when you get to know the

692
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:25,630
witness I mean it's just it's like an

693
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:27,460
onion there's just so many layers to

694
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:30,160
these UFO mysteries and once you get to

695
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:32,530
the actual witness of an event that's

696
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:34,060
when you can really get to the core of

697
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:36,910
ok how did it affect them what do they

698
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:38,860
think it was other than what the public

699
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:42,070
or some government agency says it was

700
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,890
and let's let's hear what they have to

701
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:47,200
say let's give these people voices so

702
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:49,930
I'm so happy that you know the tick-tack

703
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:53,530
UFO that's become such a big thing in

704
00:29:58,110 --> 00:29:55,930
the mainstream media and in the UFO

705
00:30:01,470 --> 00:29:58,120
field that we finally have stories to

706
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:01,480
tell to that event people like Sean and

707
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:05,200
and even flavor I mean and the female

708
00:30:09,659 --> 00:30:07,660
witness as well we're now hearing how

709
00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:09,669
these events affected them and so that

710
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:12,419
sometimes says more than just you know a

711
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,520
30-second video ever coded right and

712
00:30:19,409 --> 00:30:17,679
Kevin's a great witness I mean we all

713
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:19,419
love to hear from jet fighter pilots and

714
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:21,220
that's exciting and I was in Oregon to

715
00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:22,630
hear from David flavor and that was

716
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:24,820
exciting but really a jet fighter pilot

717
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,190
only has a small piece of the puzzle

718
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:29,679
what's great about Kevin being a radar

719
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:32,290
operator is he's looking at the whole

720
00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:35,620
area that they're opera you know area of

721
00:30:40,830 --> 00:30:38,020
operation that they're working in so he

722
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:40,840
has an overall view of what occurred

723
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:43,540
throughout the area and throughout the

724
00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:46,450
entire time period so he's good you know

725
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:48,580
the eye in the sky literally you know

726
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:50,169
looking over things and he was a radar

727
00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:51,850
supervisor and that's another aspect

728
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:54,400
that makes him important is that he can

729
00:30:58,770 --> 00:30:56,290
tell us you know from a very high level

730
00:31:00,330 --> 00:30:58,780
what occurred which he's going to have

731
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,340
more information than most of the

732
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:02,559
witnesses involved hmm yeah that's

733
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,110
awesome I can't wait to hopefully get

734
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:06,880
the DVD of that one I'm looking forward

735
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:14,590
to that they've been seen all over our

736
00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:16,809
planet somewhere in the skies I'm

737
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:20,260
talking about flying saucers hey guys

738
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760
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well another big part of mainstream

761
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:30,270
ufology I would say in the past couple

762
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:33,720
years is Project Blue Book a TV show

763
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:35,790
that you've covered extensively over at

764
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:38,760
den of geek and you know Paul Hynek was

765
00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:42,720
recently at the UFO symposium I was able

766
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:44,160
to get a little bit of audio of him

767
00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:45,750
talking but this is gonna be a full

768
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:48,540
presentation of Paul talking all about

769
00:32:54,620 --> 00:32:51,570
his father's work and everything so this

770
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:54,630
is cool man are you excited for this one

771
00:32:58,580 --> 00:32:56,550
I'm very excited for this one I've

772
00:33:00,260 --> 00:32:58,590
spoken I've had him on the podcast but

773
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:00,270
I'm excited to talk to him again

774
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,410
and in public and for a couple reasons

775
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:07,440
mainly because a project Bluebook he's a

776
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:10,050
perfect representative for the show

777
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:11,940
because a lot of you follow just

778
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:13,620
criticized that the show was not

779
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:16,500
accurate and it is terribly inaccurate

780
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:19,290
it there right it's very inaccurate it's

781
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,140
completely fictionalized his mom did not

782
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:24,720
have an illicit affair with a Russian

783
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:27,210
agent you know none of that sort of

784
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:30,210
thing happened but he's also works in

785
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:33,450
the movie and entertainment industry so

786
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:35,730
he gets that they're gonna sex it up and

787
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:37,800
it is you know it and it does admit that

788
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:39,510
it's only loosely based on this you know

789
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:41,730
it's a fictionalized version of events

790
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:44,610
so it's great to have his perspective to

791
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:47,670
say okay this is not how it really

792
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:49,590
happened this is what it was really like

793
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:51,930
to live in the Hynek household however

794
00:33:58,010 --> 00:33:55,140
working on the show here's how I feel

795
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:58,020
about how they fictionalized things and

796
00:34:03,530 --> 00:34:00,840
mostly he's pretty cool with it so I

797
00:34:05,470 --> 00:34:03,540
really want to kind of put him to task

798
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:05,480
on a couple of the more wild kind of

799
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:09,120
arcs in the series but in the end the

800
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:11,879
series getting a second season you know

801
00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:14,129
I was there at Comic Con for the panel

802
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:16,350
and it was a huge risk

803
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:18,780
the room was packed people were really

804
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:22,080
excited and so I think this show has

805
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:24,570
been received very very well and people

806
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:27,720
are liking it and I feel that it does

807
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,179
bring awareness to Hynek and you know we

808
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:31,800
criticize this is one of the it's kind

809
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,630
of getting back to the a tip issue is in

810
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,240
the UFO community we were so you know

811
00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:38,700
insulated from the rest of the world in

812
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:40,679
a way and not watching and I think it's

813
00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:43,260
important to take a step back this is

814
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:46,230
how UFOs become mainstream this is

815
00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:48,870
really how disclosure happens the

816
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:50,820
community that the society gets

817
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:53,280
comfortable with the topic and does what

818
00:35:00,020 --> 00:34:56,610
it does with any topic that is popular

819
00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:00,030
it takes it and packages it and sells it

820
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,480
and sexes it up and it attacks it from

821
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:05,760
every different angle the good thing is

822
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:08,130
is that a ton of information is getting

823
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,530
out there and a lot of interest is being

824
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:12,780
generated and you know down the line

825
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:16,050
there will be that more historical

826
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,210
fiction version of Hynek you know that

827
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:20,640
is more historically accurate I even

828
00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:22,260
here there are our projects out there

829
00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:24,270
that are working on this currently and

830
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:26,100
you know we probably wouldn't have

831
00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:27,870
gotten that we wouldn't get all this

832
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:30,300
interest what you know I included and I

833
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:32,760
was so lucky and at alien calm before

834
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:35,640
the first time I met Paul Hynek it was

835
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:37,830
before the show had aired Hynek was

836
00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:39,480
actually in one of my lectures I didn't

837
00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:41,940
even know this and I always include I

838
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,120
try to include Jael and Hynek as much as

839
00:35:48,590 --> 00:35:47,280
possible in my lectures and sure enough

840
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,600
this was the one where I talked about

841
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:50,640
him a lot again and I always say nice

842
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,110
things because I don't want people to

843
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:54,240
forget this important figure in history

844
00:35:58,850 --> 00:35:57,000
and I've feared that people were he was

845
00:36:01,760 --> 00:35:58,860
getting his whole story was getting lost

846
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:01,770
to obscurity and and that was my biggest

847
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:03,510
fear so it was great to hear Paul

848
00:36:06,590 --> 00:36:05,160
hynek's you know he's like thank you for

849
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:06,600
saying so much great things about my dad

850
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:07,650
and so forth

851
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:10,290
and and the show it's great to see a

852
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:12,780
popular because it does bring his his

853
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:16,530
memory his you know into the public eye

854
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:17,910
again and I think that's really

855
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:20,370
important so there is some silver lining

856
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:22,230
there is a lot of positive that comes

857
00:36:26,570 --> 00:36:24,150
out of this stuff even if you know

858
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:26,580
certainly can be criticized for some

859
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:29,250
major embellishments putting it lightly

860
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:30,150
well

861
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:32,730
you know we've said this in the past

862
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:35,250
over wrote planet to like this show is

863
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:37,529
not a documentary it is a fictional

864
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:40,260
television show so take that for what it

865
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:43,740
is and extrapolate the the fact from the

866
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:46,200
fiction and watch these cool things they

867
00:36:49,849 --> 00:36:48,180
do after the episodes where they tell

868
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:49,859
you about the actual case I think that's

869
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:53,130
so response I mean of articles and the

870
00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:54,930
articles my god I can't tell you how

871
00:37:01,130 --> 00:36:57,180
many times I've been doing research in

872
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:01,140
the past year and my number one you know

873
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:03,569
website that I'm always tripping upon is

874
00:37:08,569 --> 00:37:05,910
the History Channel yeah their articles

875
00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,579
are great good yeah yeah yeah that's

876
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:10,980
exciting I'm glad that you know they

877
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:13,970
understand what they're doing could be

878
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:18,270
you know misconstrued as fact especially

879
00:37:21,799 --> 00:37:19,500
when you know it's based on actual

880
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:21,809
events but but to then go that extra

881
00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:23,940
step and be responsible and do that I

882
00:37:28,099 --> 00:37:26,760
think it's great so I I'm excited to see

883
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,109
what they come up with season two I know

884
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:30,119
we're gonna be touching on Roswell and

885
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:32,730
possibly a few other you know seminal

886
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:35,609
cases in the UFO field so I'm interested

887
00:37:40,339 --> 00:37:37,470
to see how they cover Roswell you know

888
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:40,349
yeah especially with the past history

889
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:42,150
with you and I at the Roswell I'm

890
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:45,210
excited to see what happens well you've

891
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:48,390
got a bunch of also really interesting

892
00:37:53,329 --> 00:37:50,760
experiences coming you know you've got

893
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,339
Debby Jordan from the you know that the

894
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:55,440
book intruders was based on you've got

895
00:38:01,220 --> 00:37:57,650
Terry Lovelace who has one of the

896
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:01,230
craziest string of event UFO stories

897
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:03,450
I've ever heard and I don't mean crazy

898
00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:06,270
in a bad way I just mean yeah why I was

899
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:09,480
been through everything and the other

900
00:38:13,099 --> 00:38:10,920
really big one that caught my attention

901
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:13,109
was Calvin Parker from the Pascagoula

902
00:38:18,859 --> 00:38:17,339
UFO incident how how did you get this

903
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:18,869
guy man I know he doesn't do these

904
00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:21,000
things often well you know I was

905
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:23,640
contacted like a year ago from Phillip

906
00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:25,260
mantle and he said oh my gosh you know

907
00:38:29,210 --> 00:38:27,000
and well actually I was contacted a

908
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:29,220
couple years ago from Philip and he was

909
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,230
like I want to reprint the Pascagoula

910
00:38:36,740 --> 00:38:33,660
the the wendell stevens pascagoula book

911
00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:36,750
and open mind my boss John Rael had

912
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:39,270
purchased Wendell Stevens archives and

913
00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:40,710
when old Stevens wrote that book or

914
00:38:45,830 --> 00:38:42,180
published it

915
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,840
and so John said sure and then but I had

916
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:47,280
told him you you probably ought to get

917
00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:50,970
permission from from Wendell's daughter

918
00:38:54,740 --> 00:38:52,740
because I know she feels like she has

919
00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:54,750
claimed to some of that as well

920
00:38:58,970 --> 00:38:57,000
and it'd probably be a good idea I

921
00:39:01,880 --> 00:38:58,980
helped him contact her and she gave the

922
00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:01,890
okay so he started working on it well in

923
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:03,660
the process he was having a hard time of

924
00:39:08,450 --> 00:39:05,430
getting ahold of carven Parker because

925
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:08,460
he wanted to and he finally did and when

926
00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:10,830
he did he told Calvin let let's write

927
00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:12,870
the book a new book from your

928
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,220
perspective and so you could get your

929
00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:19,140
word out there and and he talked Calvin

930
00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:21,000
into it Phillips a great guy so it's not

931
00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:23,100
surprising and Calvin Parker's a really

932
00:39:28,070 --> 00:39:25,500
great guy really nice guy and so they

933
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:28,080
work together and Cal and Philip told me

934
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,630
I bet he convinced Calvin to promote the

935
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:36,480
book for a year and that the big thing

936
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,250
we wanted to do was come speak at the

937
00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:40,320
UFO Congress so Calvin was like one of

938
00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:42,840
our first speakers we had signed up and

939
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:44,190
he said he wants to speak at the

940
00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:46,170
Congress and then he's retiring he's not

941
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,840
talking UFOs he's done and I said okay

942
00:39:52,850 --> 00:39:50,880
you know that sounds great were

943
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,860
privileged to have him and what's funny

944
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:54,960
is then he's speaking all over the place

945
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:56,970
so fill him got him everywhere so he's

946
00:40:01,580 --> 00:39:58,890
been every to a lot of different places

947
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:01,590
and finally we're gonna be doing the

948
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:04,170
Congress and he says you know after the

949
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:06,030
Congress he's going back to just

950
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:07,890
straight fishing because that's what he

951
00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:10,800
likes to do and usually he's already

952
00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:12,360
fish and he's probably fishing right now

953
00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:14,430
but sometimes his fishing has to get

954
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:16,860
interrupted by doing television

955
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:19,230
interviews or documentary interviews or

956
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:23,280
going to an event like this and so I

957
00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:26,490
think he's happy that this to him will

958
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:28,500
be it we'll see if that comes out to be

959
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:30,150
the case because his story is becoming

960
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:32,250
very popular it's getting a lot of

961
00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:35,730
attention and so we'll see what happens

962
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:37,590
but yeah he's a great guy I've

963
00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:39,180
interviewed him before I've loved

964
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:42,540
interviewing him I'm very excited to get

965
00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:46,050
people to meet him in person to help

966
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:48,600
share the story with our audience and

967
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:50,760
then to hear what kind of questions that

968
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:53,970
the audience has for him and what sort

969
00:40:57,579 --> 00:40:55,609
of information that reveals

970
00:40:59,940 --> 00:40:57,589
yeah it's one of the big ones you know

971
00:41:02,979 --> 00:40:59,950
you hear you hear about it all the time

972
00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:02,989
all over the place so I'm excited that

973
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:05,150
we finally we still have someone to tell

974
00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:07,430
this story to preserve yeah you know we

975
00:41:11,499 --> 00:41:09,109
unfortunately lost the other gentleman

976
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:11,509
that was involved with it so we kind of

977
00:41:15,759 --> 00:41:14,089
have his story to rely on at this point

978
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:15,769
but you know what if he's gonna get

979
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:18,440
interrupted to do you know from fishing

980
00:41:21,969 --> 00:41:20,329
if he's gonna get interrupted to do

981
00:41:24,099 --> 00:41:21,979
conferences I guess that's better than

982
00:41:27,279 --> 00:41:24,109
getting interrupted by another Flying

983
00:41:29,469 --> 00:41:27,289
Saucer right exactly he didn't like

984
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:29,479
those guys very much you know and it's

985
00:41:34,539 --> 00:41:32,089
efficient he doesn't go fishing he does

986
00:41:40,839 --> 00:41:34,549
fishing fishing gone fishing there you

987
00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:40,849
go gone fishing let's see you've got

988
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:44,150
Michael P masters talking about us from

989
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:47,209
the future really interesting concept of

990
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:49,609
could aliens be us from the future we've

991
00:41:53,859 --> 00:41:52,130
heard a lot of people propose these

992
00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:53,869
theories so I'm really interested to

993
00:41:58,209 --> 00:41:55,940
hear him talk about that have you

994
00:41:59,979 --> 00:41:58,219
interviewed him not yet I've been trying

995
00:42:03,370 --> 00:41:59,989
to get him on the show for a while now

996
00:42:05,529 --> 00:42:03,380
but he's a hard guy to get yeah I but

997
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:05,539
but the interviews I have heard him give

998
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:08,150
he's extremely articulate and he has a

999
00:42:14,019 --> 00:42:11,569
lot of science and anthropology to sort

1000
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:14,029
of back up what he's saying not just out

1001
00:42:19,569 --> 00:42:17,209
there spouting this theory with no you

1002
00:42:22,989 --> 00:42:19,579
know evidence or or ways to really back

1003
00:42:25,479 --> 00:42:22,999
it up so I I've always been really

1004
00:42:27,939 --> 00:42:25,489
fascinated by the prospect of aliens

1005
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,949
being us from the future I mean it

1006
00:42:31,390 --> 00:42:29,839
actually makes a lot more sense than I

1007
00:42:34,569 --> 00:42:31,400
think a lot of the other theories out

1008
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:34,579
there so to know that's really focusing

1009
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:35,930
just on that I love it

1010
00:42:42,509 --> 00:42:39,109
I know to me it's just as a legit a

1011
00:42:47,049 --> 00:42:42,519
theory or a possibility as an

1012
00:42:49,269 --> 00:42:47,059
extraterrestrial civilization um you

1013
00:42:51,219 --> 00:42:49,279
know it is just as legit and for some

1014
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:51,229
reason we don't focus on this or you

1015
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:53,180
don't hear much about it and I think

1016
00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:56,209
that that's what I really love about

1017
00:43:00,660 --> 00:42:58,430
this like you said he's knowledgeable as

1018
00:43:03,579 --> 00:43:00,670
the professor of biological anthropology

1019
00:43:05,890 --> 00:43:03,589
so I have not heard an interview yet

1020
00:43:08,529 --> 00:43:05,900
I've been kind of saving myself and that

1021
00:43:09,579 --> 00:43:08,539
so I'm very very I've heard nothing but

1022
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:09,589
good thing

1023
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,650
I'm very excited for his talk me too and

1024
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:15,200
again if you can ever ever have that

1025
00:43:19,390 --> 00:43:16,910
doctor in front of your name and be

1026
00:43:22,540 --> 00:43:19,400
speaking at a conference it only boosts

1027
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:22,550
our credibility to enfold I love it

1028
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:24,710
let's see you've got the power a couple

1029
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:28,550
the Dolans so I'm sure Dolan will

1030
00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:31,310
surprise us with something new he got

1031
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:33,800
engaged at the UFO Congress two years

1032
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:35,990
ago was that two years ago now yeah I'm

1033
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:38,570
flies it does I think that's the one you

1034
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:40,730
spoke out wasn't it yep yep yep yes it

1035
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:42,950
was I remember I remember seeing the

1036
00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:45,680
photo I wasn't there when he popped the

1037
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:47,270
question but I was definitely there to

1038
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:51,200
see the ring afterwards Tracy's gonna be

1039
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:52,760
talking about remote viewing so that's

1040
00:43:57,339 --> 00:43:54,710
really interesting I had no idea she was

1041
00:44:00,220 --> 00:43:57,349
into all that stuff yeah neither did I

1042
00:44:01,780 --> 00:44:00,230
uh you know I think it was Karen who

1043
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:01,790
proposed you know we should see you have

1044
00:44:05,859 --> 00:44:03,890
Tracy talk and I was like I didn't know

1045
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:05,869
she was doing talks and Karen you know

1046
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,250
had done some research and said yeah

1047
00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:10,160
she's she has done remote viewing and

1048
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:11,720
and I guess that's a big deal for her

1049
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:14,810
and and I was like heck yeah that would

1050
00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:16,760
be awesome because Tracy if you've met

1051
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:18,470
her is just incredible

1052
00:44:25,780 --> 00:44:22,329
she is just always smiling

1053
00:44:27,579 --> 00:44:25,790
in fact the picture that we have on the

1054
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:27,589
website she's kind of got a little bit

1055
00:44:32,650 --> 00:44:30,410
of a smile and that's the least smile

1056
00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:32,660
I've ever seen on her because she's

1057
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:34,670
always got a big old smile she's always

1058
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:37,730
very friendly and she's just a lot of

1059
00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:41,599
fun to be around and so that's exciting

1060
00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:43,430
that I think people are gonna you know

1061
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:47,000
love her and no matter what let alone if

1062
00:44:50,589 --> 00:44:48,440
she shares some really great information

1063
00:44:52,780 --> 00:44:50,599
which I think she will because if you

1064
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:52,790
read the bio and you read her background

1065
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:55,369
she's done a lot of work in this area

1066
00:45:01,960 --> 00:44:59,599
and I'm really excited for it II to

1067
00:45:03,849 --> 00:45:01,970
having you've got some of our favorites

1068
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:03,859
you've got David hatch or children's

1069
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:07,490
Christopher O Brien some other new face

1070
00:45:12,670 --> 00:45:10,150
Mark Dantonio one of our other vets

1071
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,680
Chuck Zukowski talking about Aileen

1072
00:45:17,980 --> 00:45:14,720
Highway love that show I can't wait to

1073
00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:17,990
hear the hear the background on all that

1074
00:45:24,450 --> 00:45:20,950
but one of the really interesting things

1075
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:24,460
I came across being a you know a

1076
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:28,720
scriptwriter myself is this film panel

1077
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,290
with key theremin dean Alioto and james

1078
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:34,000
fox is gonna be there too you've got all

1079
00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:35,950
these amazing filmmakers in the UFO

1080
00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:37,840
field coming to the Congress this year

1081
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:40,950
so what are all those guys can be up to

1082
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,750
well this is gonna be a lot of fun and

1083
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:45,760
this was well Dean and Keith are working

1084
00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:47,110
on a project and they're gonna be

1085
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:49,630
filming some people in fact if you're

1086
00:45:53,490 --> 00:45:51,220
coming to the Congress and you had your

1087
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:53,500
own experience they would love to talk

1088
00:45:58,140 --> 00:45:55,030
to you so they're interviewing people

1089
00:46:00,570 --> 00:45:58,150
who have had experiences and they're

1090
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:00,580
challenging the kind of idea that

1091
00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:03,370
everyone who kind of like Jason

1092
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:05,020
MacLennan's book that everyone who has a

1093
00:46:13,950 --> 00:46:08,920
sighting is you know kind of a goofy um

1094
00:46:15,930 --> 00:46:13,960
you know yeah tinfoil hat person so

1095
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:15,940
that's the project they're working on

1096
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:17,740
which is really fun but they want to

1097
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:19,510
talk about their experience making

1098
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:22,450
fiction and nonfiction movies about UFOs

1099
00:46:27,450 --> 00:46:24,670
their inspiration and what it's been

1100
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:27,460
like and some of the difficulties when

1101
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:30,490
they do run across some of the for lack

1102
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:33,280
of a better turn tinfoil hat people I

1103
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:36,370
mean the type of you know conspiracy

1104
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:39,310
theories and you know BS that gets in

1105
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:41,050
the way so for instance you know Dean

1106
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:43,810
Alioto spoke a couple years or last year

1107
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:45,820
and he talked about how this movie he

1108
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:48,010
made people will not believe him that

1109
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:50,170
you know this movie he made was not real

1110
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:52,690
it was fake he it was fictionalized and

1111
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:54,370
there's a lot of people in this field

1112
00:46:58,380 --> 00:46:56,830
that don't believe him or that we're

1113
00:47:01,020 --> 00:46:58,390
trying to convince people and there's

1114
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:01,030
new videos out there all the time trying

1115
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:04,210
to convince people that it is real and I

1116
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:05,710
think that's important because it shows

1117
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:09,730
that there are a lot of people who just

1118
00:47:16,770 --> 00:47:12,610
don't want real information I think they

1119
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:16,780
just want kind of make believe it but

1120
00:47:21,150 --> 00:47:19,210
which is their business of course so

1121
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:21,160
just kind of the weirdness how weird it

1122
00:47:26,670 --> 00:47:24,180
is and to be working in this build and

1123
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:26,680
kind of the difficulties they run run

1124
00:47:31,350 --> 00:47:28,740
across but also some of the major

1125
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:31,360
benefits some of the things that you

1126
00:47:35,010 --> 00:47:33,820
know because they love bringing

1127
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:35,020
information about you of

1128
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:37,390
trying to promote them as a legitimate

1129
00:47:43,290 --> 00:47:41,050
you know area of research and so that's

1130
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:43,300
so it's all of this stuff and of course

1131
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:46,690
James Fox he's gonna be doing a lecture

1132
00:47:50,460 --> 00:47:47,980
where he's gonna be sharing for the

1133
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,470
first time finally some information

1134
00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:53,680
about this much much eagerly awaited

1135
00:47:57,330 --> 00:47:55,720
documentary he's been working on for the

1136
00:48:00,600 --> 00:47:57,340
last couple of years with like you said

1137
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:00,610
earlier Lee Spiegel and so that's really

1138
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:02,110
exciting we're gonna hear from him and

1139
00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:03,880
then hear his thoughts and these guys

1140
00:48:09,570 --> 00:48:07,540
are all really witty fun people so it's

1141
00:48:11,609 --> 00:48:09,580
probably gonna be a lot of fun and then

1142
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:11,619
Paul Hynek is actually joining us

1143
00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:13,390
because people don't know he's actually

1144
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:15,340
got a whole background and working on

1145
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:19,390
lots of movies and games so he's worked

1146
00:48:24,690 --> 00:48:23,110
in Hollywood so and having you know also

1147
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:24,700
like we talked about earlier spanning

1148
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:26,920
this truth versus fiction kind of arena

1149
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:28,990
when it comes to UFOs you know he'll be

1150
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:30,610
sharing his perspectives and thoughts

1151
00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:33,430
too so it's gonna be fun awesome

1152
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:35,830
yeah there's you know if those are the

1153
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:38,350
the people sort of spearheading UFO

1154
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:41,470
coverage and in film I think we're in

1155
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:43,090
good hands for sure for sure

1156
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:46,600
waitis finally finally see some footage

1157
00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:48,430
from this james fox thing we've been

1158
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:51,580
waiting years for this yes but i know

1159
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:53,800
it'll be worth it I have absolutely no

1160
00:48:59,220 --> 00:48:56,800
doubt in my mind well sort of moving

1161
00:49:01,140 --> 00:48:59,230
away from the speaker's Alejandro um you

1162
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:01,150
have another interesting thing that's

1163
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:03,430
new to the Congress this year and that's

1164
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:06,010
these workshops can you tell us a little

1165
00:49:11,730 --> 00:49:08,580
about what this is and who's gonna be

1166
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:11,740
involved with this yeah well there's

1167
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:14,410
always of course we've got more speakers

1168
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:17,920
this year than ever and because that's

1169
00:49:21,540 --> 00:49:19,390
usually what people want they want to

1170
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:21,550
hear from more and more people and so

1171
00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:23,410
you know lunch is the perfect time to

1172
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:25,960
provide more time to hear from some more

1173
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:30,690
people so during the lunch there are

1174
00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:33,250
workshops that people can go to they do

1175
00:49:38,580 --> 00:49:37,000
cost extra but lunch will be provided of

1176
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:38,590
course so that you can have your lunch

1177
00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:42,250
and still see all of the lectures of the

1178
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:45,940
day most of these workshop people are

1179
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:48,910
also dueling our experience or session

1180
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:50,530
some of them honor so that'll be good

1181
00:49:56,820 --> 00:49:53,050
too so for instance Rebecca Hardcastle

1182
00:49:59,640 --> 00:49:56,830
right who is a local and and she's you

1183
00:50:02,040 --> 00:49:59,650
know talks about a et experiences

1184
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:02,050
essentially and of course it's Kathleen

1185
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:03,790
Martin is always at the conference she

1186
00:50:11,070 --> 00:50:08,440
heads up the experience or research

1187
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:11,080
group for the for MUFON and then some

1188
00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:12,670
others David Hatcher Childress people

1189
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:14,230
just love him so you get to have some

1190
00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:16,690
more one-on-one time with him Travis

1191
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,270
Walton we really weren't able to fit him

1192
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:21,760
onto the schedule he's got a lot going

1193
00:50:26,430 --> 00:50:23,830
on but he's going to be there for a

1194
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,440
while for a few days and we were able to

1195
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:28,720
get a lunch workshop with him people

1196
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:30,250
love to hear from him so you'll get more

1197
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:33,940
with him Richard Dolan wants to talk

1198
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:35,770
more about crashed retrieval with people

1199
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:38,500
and then Carolyn Corey who you know won

1200
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:40,510
an EBE Film Festival Award and she's

1201
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:43,420
been around discussing uh et contacts as

1202
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:47,880
well so it provides a much more intimate

1203
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,830
setting where there's just you a few

1204
00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:53,440
other people and that researcher so you

1205
00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:55,060
can spend a lot more time getting to

1206
00:51:00,090 --> 00:50:57,670
know them asking your questions and

1207
00:51:02,610 --> 00:51:00,100
learning more so that's what the

1208
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:02,620
workshops are about I love that yeah and

1209
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:04,690
I think another big thing about the

1210
00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:07,090
Congress in general that that people

1211
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:10,780
should really understand is that you you

1212
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:13,510
get to see everyone speak at this event

1213
00:51:17,970 --> 00:51:15,580
is it's not like these other con you

1214
00:51:21,210 --> 00:51:17,980
know conventions where you have to pick

1215
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:21,220
and you you will not see everyone you

1216
00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:24,010
know as much as alien con like there's

1217
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:26,320
ten other things going on while you're

1218
00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:28,960
speaking so I was never able to go see

1219
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:31,420
friends talk or go to panels because I

1220
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:33,040
was either involved in something or

1221
00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:35,290
people told me I wanted to come to your

1222
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:37,060
talk but there was this panel at this

1223
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:39,610
time so and so on so that's why I'm like

1224
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:42,460
that the Congress is you know stretched

1225
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:44,500
out throughout at least three days and

1226
00:51:49,710 --> 00:51:46,360
you get to see everything you went and

1227
00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:49,720
paid for exactly you know when you're

1228
00:51:53,130 --> 00:51:51,580
coming to an event you know you want to

1229
00:51:56,130 --> 00:51:53,140
see the people who are there at the

1230
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:56,140
event and even if you don't know the

1231
00:52:00,960 --> 00:51:58,570
people I want you to see them because

1232
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,970
they have something great to say that

1233
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:02,800
you might not be aware

1234
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:06,160
and so I want you to see them and I you

1235
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:07,660
know luckily we've gotten a reputation

1236
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:10,930
of you know of having great speakers

1237
00:52:15,690 --> 00:52:12,850
that even people that people don't know

1238
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:15,700
turn out to be great speakers so for

1239
00:52:20,850 --> 00:52:17,290
instance one of them I'm excited about

1240
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:20,860
is tui Schneider she's a travel writer

1241
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:23,710
but she wrote a book about or she's

1242
00:52:27,330 --> 00:52:25,330
working on a book and she did it does

1243
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:27,340
this lecture on the great Texas airship

1244
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:31,450
mystery of 1897 Oh ending yeah a great

1245
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:33,610
case you know great flap of UFO she's

1246
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:36,100
got all of these news clippings so I

1247
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:38,430
know people are gonna love that talk

1248
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:40,540
whereas you know if you had to choose

1249
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:42,550
between her and David Hatcher Childress

1250
00:52:46,290 --> 00:52:44,530
people might all go to Childress and

1251
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:46,300
then people wouldn't find out about this

1252
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:47,980
new and great information that she has

1253
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:51,190
so exactly like you said this makes them

1254
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:52,870
go in and say okay well let's hear what

1255
00:52:57,660 --> 00:52:55,090
she has to say and you know there's so

1256
00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:57,670
many times like your talk you know where

1257
00:53:01,200 --> 00:52:59,020
people come out of it and they're like I

1258
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:01,210
didn't know what to expect but I'm I'm

1259
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,490
so glad that you had you know this

1260
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:05,200
person because it was amazing it was

1261
00:53:10,530 --> 00:53:08,800
great and that's what's really fun about

1262
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:10,540
the conference not just having the

1263
00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:12,970
people who are always out there kind of

1264
00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:14,680
sharing their new stuff but also having

1265
00:53:19,770 --> 00:53:16,870
these new people who people have never

1266
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:19,780
heard of sharing information and you

1267
00:53:24,090 --> 00:53:21,490
people getting to be able to get in

1268
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:24,100
there so it's it's twofold you get to if

1269
00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:26,830
you want to see children you're gonna

1270
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,900
see children if you buy a ticket but

1271
00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:30,640
you're also gonna have an opportunities

1272
00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:32,920
to see some other great talks as opposed

1273
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:35,590
to having to choose between a few and

1274
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:37,450
then missing out on something that could

1275
00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:39,820
have been incredible for you so yeah I

1276
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:41,320
think this is really important that

1277
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:43,450
everybody gets in you know because like

1278
00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:45,550
you said I love alien con - it's fun we

1279
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:47,830
get to do a lot of talks but then like

1280
00:53:52,050 --> 00:53:50,350
you know I'll do a different talk every

1281
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,060
time three or four different talks and

1282
00:53:56,370 --> 00:53:54,160
it's kind of a bummer because if I'm

1283
00:53:59,310 --> 00:53:56,380
doing a talk next to a big event going

1284
00:54:01,050 --> 00:53:59,320
on my favorite talk might get very few

1285
00:54:02,490 --> 00:54:01,060
people whereas to talk that I'm not as

1286
00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:02,500
excited about her I've done a million

1287
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:05,320
times might get a packed room and it's

1288
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:06,550
like well that's great but it would have

1289
00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:07,990
been more fun if I could have presented

1290
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:11,470
this new stuff to more people so yeah

1291
00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:15,250
yeah I remember my first a leak on my my

1292
00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:17,380
solo presentation I was up against

1293
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:20,440
x-files 25 years later with David

1294
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,270
Duchovny oh yeah that's a little high

1295
00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:27,280
right versus David d-company although

1296
00:54:32,910 --> 00:54:30,280
you got like the the one picture that

1297
00:54:35,850 --> 00:54:32,920
was basically from the whole conference

1298
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:35,860
you know with that Giorgio and and he

1299
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:38,470
was so true man if only I a copyrighted

1300
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:43,990
that photo I was but that's the way the

1301
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:45,850
cookie crumbles I'm glad that the help

1302
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:49,030
look now has that meme forever yes it

1303
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:52,410
was a momentous occasion to sing it was

1304
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,710
well okay so sort of the the last thing

1305
00:55:00,810 --> 00:54:58,480
involved with the Congress that everyone

1306
00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:00,820
really likes is the film festival so

1307
00:55:06,450 --> 00:55:03,580
what do we got this year I've heard from

1308
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:06,460
some young up-and-coming filmmakers that

1309
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:09,010
they're having their films there so yeah

1310
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:10,930
I'm excited to hear about this again

1311
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:15,130
being a film buff myself the Film

1312
00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:19,570
Festival this year might be a dare I say

1313
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:22,540
the best year I mean the lineup we have

1314
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,690
is absolutely incredible all of the

1315
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:27,760
films and maybe it's just the technology

1316
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:30,850
getting better or word getting out there

1317
00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:33,550
about the EBE Film Festival we're

1318
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,990
getting a lot of submissions from

1319
00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:36,400
California and you know from

1320
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:38,800
professional filmmakers but just some

1321
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:43,470
really good stuff so Jack and John j-3

1322
00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:47,020
my Jack Roth and John simple and Jaime

1323
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,260
Serna rj3 along with people such as

1324
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:52,000
chase Colette Sookie and Laurie Wagner

1325
00:55:56,660 --> 00:55:53,860
some other friends of ours put together

1326
00:56:00,060 --> 00:55:56,670
this film extraordinary the seating and

1327
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:00,070
it is a very strong contender so this is

1328
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:03,310
a great film it's one already a bunch of

1329
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:06,130
awards at film festivals we have one

1330
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:08,320
from a French gentleman he submitted a

1331
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:10,090
film last year's called South Shore

1332
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:13,330
origins the special effects on this

1333
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:16,570
movie are some of the best special

1334
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:19,330
effects I've ever seen for any movie

1335
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:22,360
totally contend with Hollywood it is

1336
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:24,010
mostly fiction this one it's not

1337
00:56:27,210 --> 00:56:25,060
documentary like the

1338
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:27,220
majority but it's really good of course

1339
00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:28,890
Jeremy Korbel has had a couple

1340
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:31,150
blockbusters this year Bob Lazar

1341
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:33,370
area 51 in flying saucers and hunt for

1342
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:35,590
the skinwalker both of which will be in

1343
00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:39,310
the Film Festival and another very very

1344
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:42,190
strong contender is Tim Crawford who

1345
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:45,970
owns UFO TV he has submitted two films

1346
00:56:50,130 --> 00:56:47,910
he's kind of doing like the other

1347
00:56:53,970 --> 00:56:50,140
content providers and starting to

1348
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:53,980
produce his own content and it's it's a

1349
00:56:58,740 --> 00:56:55,690
it's really good stuff I mean high

1350
00:57:00,600 --> 00:56:58,750
quality and he's got two one call to

1351
00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:00,610
cosmic matrix would you put together

1352
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:02,740
with Ted Peters and then one called

1353
00:57:11,310 --> 00:57:07,900
space Geist and they're all solid solid

1354
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:11,320
films I have no idea who's gonna win I'm

1355
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:14,770
just I'm so excited about who might win

1356
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:16,750
and then for the shorts we have a ton of

1357
00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:20,050
short Jeremy submitted three two of them

1358
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:24,940
are kind of seeing a bob lazar that been

1359
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:28,210
seen or another one is skinwalker George

1360
00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:29,530
Knapp tells all where it's kind of

1361
00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:32,620
Georgia Knapp unplug on skinwalker and

1362
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:34,990
then there's a few others a couple that

1363
00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:37,720
are fiction Peter Robbins and Jennifer

1364
00:57:43,470 --> 00:57:39,790
Stein with Bob Theriot put together one

1365
00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:43,480
on James Forrestal and and these others

1366
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:45,400
from people in Hollywood one called The

1367
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:47,230
Awakening one called rift one called

1368
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:52,090
alien guy Tim are fun fictional but

1369
00:57:56,310 --> 00:57:53,770
they're really neat for example alien

1370
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:56,320
guy Tim is this guy who's an engineer

1371
00:58:01,260 --> 00:57:59,170
who's an abductee and at first he's kind

1372
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:01,270
of talking to the camera like a like a

1373
00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:04,020
90-day fiance or something like that and

1374
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:06,280
and it's kind of funny and you're like

1375
00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:08,950
this guy's weird and quirky but but then

1376
00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:10,390
there's some great then it moves into

1377
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:12,070
the scene where it's interviewing his

1378
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:13,900
brother and sister who are skeptical and

1379
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,490
they're kind of like you're your regular

1380
00:58:19,050 --> 00:58:17,200
family member like what the heck is this

1381
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:19,060
I don't know what he's talking about or

1382
00:58:23,490 --> 00:58:21,490
why he's saying this stuff and then they

1383
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:23,500
have them all together and they argue

1384
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,810
and it just feels like a real

1385
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:27,280
conversation you know these real

1386
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:28,930
conversations that go on between people

1387
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:31,330
who are interested in this field who are

1388
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:33,010
who have believed' they've experienced

1389
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:34,930
something and their family members who

1390
00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:36,790
are skeptical they still love them and

1391
00:58:40,260 --> 00:58:37,750
they

1392
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:40,270
I support them but are skeptical that

1393
00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:42,490
they really had this experience so I

1394
00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:44,200
think it's great that's an example of

1395
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:47,080
kind of the intriguing novel ways that

1396
00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:49,090
people outside of kind of the UFO

1397
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,940
community who are educated on what goes

1398
00:58:58,140 --> 00:58:54,880
on in it I'm putting together films that

1399
00:59:01,350 --> 00:58:58,150
take a different look at the topic and

1400
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:01,360
so I think it's gonna be 12 hours of

1401
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:04,930
film viewing on Tuesday September 3rd

1402
00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:08,200
for the judges 12 hours of films but

1403
00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:10,900
they're really good films judging is

1404
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:13,300
free if you come to the Sheraton Grand

1405
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:16,900
downtown and in Phoenix at 9:00 a.m. on

1406
00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:19,510
Tuesday the 3rd you can come in and as

1407
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:21,190
long as you're gonna watch all of the

1408
00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:23,830
films in one category you can be a judge

1409
00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:26,140
you've just got to see all the films so

1410
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:28,630
you know if you're a film lover come and

1411
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:29,860
there's a lot of people who do there's

1412
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,570
people who fly in early and locals who

1413
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:33,520
look forward to this every year and I

1414
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:36,730
know 12 hours sounds like a lot but this

1415
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:40,000
is 12 hours of a really good film so I

1416
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:41,200
think that they're gonna be fine

1417
00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:42,610
sometimes the films aren't that great

1418
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:43,960
and they're like oh my gosh I can't

1419
00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:46,570
believe I sat through but in this case I

1420
00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:48,220
think they're gonna really enjoy all of

1421
00:59:53,070 --> 00:59:51,190
them that's awesome and I mean I that

1422
00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:53,080
was probably my favorite part of the

1423
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,720
Congress when I you know I used to help

1424
01:00:01,620 --> 00:59:58,480
go run the film the film festival and it

1425
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:01,630
is it's you like yourself yeah I mean

1426
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:03,460
sometimes you get some duds but overall

1427
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:06,490
the quality of filmmaking going on in

1428
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:09,610
the UFO genre it I think has never

1429
01:00:13,770 --> 01:00:12,010
looked brighter I think like you said we

1430
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:13,780
live in an age now where anyone can be a

1431
01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:17,080
filmmaker and I'm not saying that like

1432
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:19,240
don't don't go to film school or

1433
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:21,670
anything but you can shoot one of these

1434
01:00:26,130 --> 01:00:23,410
amazing movies right on your phone

1435
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:26,140
nowadays yeah the fact that we're

1436
01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:28,630
getting such good quality stuff that's

1437
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:31,990
also informational and insightful rather

1438
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:34,480
than just entertainment that's important

1439
01:00:40,590 --> 01:00:37,510
so I can't wait to UM to see some of

1440
01:00:42,570 --> 01:00:40,600
those as they move forward and for those

1441
01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:42,580
of us who can't make it to the Congress

1442
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:45,430
I know that there are DVDs available of

1443
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:47,620
every talk is that correct are you guys

1444
01:00:51,809 --> 01:00:48,670
still doing that

1445
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,819
yes we do DVDs so if you go to UFO

1446
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Congress comm there's a store where you

1447
01:00:58,349 --> 01:00:56,650
can purchase the DVDs probably in the

1448
01:01:01,470 --> 01:00:58,359
next week we'll put some pre-orders up

1449
01:01:03,329 --> 01:01:01,480
for box sets however if you go to the

1450
01:01:06,930 --> 01:01:03,339
front page you'll also find a link to

1451
01:01:09,269 --> 01:01:06,940
our on-demand video portal and we have a

1452
01:01:11,339 --> 01:01:09,279
two week free trial where you can watch

1453
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,349
all of our we've got lectures going back

1454
01:01:15,779 --> 01:01:13,599
to 2011 on this so we already have

1455
01:01:18,029 --> 01:01:15,789
hundreds of lectures on this video

1456
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:18,039
portal and really this is what I

1457
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,710
recommend over DVDs first of all they're

1458
01:01:25,289 --> 01:01:23,200
cheaper than DVDs and if you're like me

1459
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:25,299
I haven't touched except for the the

1460
01:01:30,539 --> 01:01:27,490
ones we make I haven't actually put a

1461
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:30,549
DVD into a DVD player and played it

1462
01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:33,369
forever I did Project Blue Book actually

1463
01:01:37,710 --> 01:01:35,980
they sent me the DVDs iq2 I think yes so

1464
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:37,720
those were the last ones I played before

1465
01:01:41,009 --> 01:01:38,799
that had been years

1466
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:41,019
I don't watch DVDs but I watched stuff

1467
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:44,529
online so this way you have it with you

1468
01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:47,170
wherever you go online and the

1469
01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:49,180
subscription is really cheap after that

1470
01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:51,190
two weeks for a monthly basis I think

1471
01:01:57,450 --> 01:01:54,940
it's $5.99 and then and then you have

1472
01:02:01,079 --> 01:01:57,460
access to all of these so we'll be

1473
01:02:04,049 --> 01:02:01,089
posting the 2019 videos up on our portal

1474
01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:04,059
as quickly as possible and we'll get

1475
01:02:08,490 --> 01:02:05,740
those up real soon so everybody can

1476
01:02:10,289 --> 01:02:08,500
enjoy those and see those but that to me

1477
01:02:14,099 --> 01:02:10,299
is the best it's the most cost-effective

1478
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:14,109
and best way to watch them is to to join

1479
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:16,569
the video portal so I don't know if I

1480
01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:17,920
should say that because I you know

1481
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:19,480
you'll you'll save money if you do that

1482
01:02:25,319 --> 01:02:22,569
but the video portal is awesome it's

1483
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:25,329
it's really cool and I think people who

1484
01:02:28,829 --> 01:02:27,490
take advantage of it love it but yeah

1485
01:02:30,329 --> 01:02:28,839
you'll see that on the front page that's

1486
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:30,339
just the easiest way to do it you don't

1487
01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:32,049
have to take anything home or come you

1488
01:02:35,249 --> 01:02:33,700
can watch it on the portal when they

1489
01:02:37,499 --> 01:02:35,259
when they show up and it's kind of fun

1490
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:37,509
because then every week or you know

1491
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:39,250
there's a new video for you to watch so

1492
01:02:44,819 --> 01:02:43,000
I recommend the portal but yes we will

1493
01:02:46,589 --> 01:02:44,829
have DVDs as well awesome

1494
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:46,599
yeah and you know the speaker's sign

1495
01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:48,730
them to there so that's always a plus

1496
01:02:52,529 --> 01:02:50,470
that's another yeah you can get the

1497
01:02:55,769 --> 01:02:52,539
speaker's to sign them and and people

1498
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:55,779
love doing that yeah and I look I'm sort

1499
01:03:01,780 --> 01:02:58,210
of still old-school I love my DVDs my

1500
01:03:03,310 --> 01:03:01,790
cover books but but you know it is

1501
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:03,320
much more convenient when you can just

1502
01:03:08,260 --> 01:03:05,930
couple clicks and stream it so no I

1503
01:03:10,450 --> 01:03:08,270
think it's amazing like and how did that

1504
01:03:12,580 --> 01:03:10,460
go for you when you moved from one coast

1505
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:12,590
to the other oh my gosh man I think my

1506
01:03:19,690 --> 01:03:15,670
entire u-haul was just crates of books

1507
01:03:23,740 --> 01:03:19,700
DVDs so I'm learning to slowly move away

1508
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,750
from that they get so heavy I know it

1509
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:25,520
just gets heavier and heavier but you

1510
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:28,130
know I'm trying to amass that great UFO

1511
01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:31,130
library just like you know some of our

1512
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:33,350
mutual colleagues who have readings and

1513
01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:36,170
rooms full of them so that's my goal but

1514
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:38,030
right now most of them are in storage

1515
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:40,850
safe storage because you know these New

1516
01:03:46,690 --> 01:03:43,910
York apartments right not much room for

1517
01:03:48,730 --> 01:03:46,700
anything else other than like a little

1518
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:48,740
couching and that's about it

1519
01:03:54,820 --> 01:03:52,400
all right but I love it

1520
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:54,830
well I mean for someone like me who

1521
01:03:58,990 --> 01:03:56,510
unfortunately cannot make it this year I

1522
01:04:01,900 --> 01:03:59,000
love that I'll be able to still see and

1523
01:04:03,970 --> 01:04:01,910
hear a lot of the speakers I do have an

1524
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:03,980
on-site correspondent he's gonna be

1525
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:06,020
doing some interviews out there so I

1526
01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:08,450
know we'll have some live stuff coming

1527
01:04:12,490 --> 01:04:09,860
to somewhere in the skies from the

1528
01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:12,500
Congress so that'll be really fun but um

1529
01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:15,470
can you once again Alejandra let us know

1530
01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:17,510
where we can get tickets more

1531
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:20,000
information on speakers and everything

1532
01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:23,330
let's go through the rundown okay so UFO

1533
01:04:29,020 --> 01:04:24,950
congress.com is where you're gonna find

1534
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,030
everything now tickets are no longer as

1535
01:04:33,490 --> 01:04:31,280
of last night you can't buy them online

1536
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:33,500
anymore we always have to you know you

1537
01:04:36,580 --> 01:04:34,790
got to stop because you have to print up

1538
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,590
the tickets and everything so we had to

1539
01:04:41,380 --> 01:04:38,960
process those and print those and poor

1540
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:41,390
Karen was up literally all night you

1541
01:04:44,050 --> 01:04:41,810
know

1542
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:44,060
getting those badges ready for everybody

1543
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:46,370
so we can get that to the printer so

1544
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:48,110
really we waited the last minute before

1545
01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:51,230
we turned off the online registration

1546
01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:54,590
however you can still see ticket prices

1547
01:05:00,040 --> 01:04:57,590
and you can still buy tickets at the

1548
01:05:03,790 --> 01:05:00,050
door so no worries the only thing we

1549
01:05:06,610 --> 01:05:03,800
have sold out thus far is Ben Hans's sky

1550
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:06,620
watch unfortunately that is sold out so

1551
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:08,330
you won't be able to do that that's all

1552
01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:09,710
that really quickly everybody really

1553
01:05:15,010 --> 01:05:11,960
wants got to mention that one yeah go up

1554
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:15,020
and see go with Ben Hansen Ben Hansen by

1555
01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:15,530
the way

1556
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:17,480
also be speaking on Sunday he's got this

1557
01:05:24,610 --> 01:05:21,260
most incredible UFO or I mean ghost

1558
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:24,620
video on his new TV shows but he's gonna

1559
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:27,290
be talking about kind of how you use

1560
01:05:32,530 --> 01:05:29,150
similar tech in ghost hunting in UFO

1561
01:05:35,860 --> 01:05:32,540
honey but otherwise some of the lunch

1562
01:05:37,210 --> 01:05:35,870
events are almost sold out but when you

1563
01:05:39,730 --> 01:05:37,220
get to the conference you'll be able to

1564
01:05:41,230 --> 01:05:39,740
purchase them so everything will be

1565
01:05:43,090 --> 01:05:41,240
available when you get to the conference

1566
01:05:45,250 --> 01:05:43,100
you can buy their tickets there so no

1567
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:45,260
worries still come by we have room and

1568
01:05:49,660 --> 01:05:48,530
we have space for everything so if

1569
01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:49,670
you're still want to come and you

1570
01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:51,470
haven't bought your ticket yet still

1571
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:53,780
come out we'll just get you your tickets

1572
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:56,210
when you get there so UFO Congress calm

1573
01:06:02,020 --> 01:05:58,330
you'll be able to find all of that

1574
01:06:04,090 --> 01:06:02,030
awesome I love it man again I wish I

1575
01:06:07,690 --> 01:06:04,100
could be there but I know it's gonna be

1576
01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:07,700
an amazing event and next year for sure

1577
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:10,580
but uh awesome because we miss you a lot

1578
01:06:16,540 --> 01:06:13,370
I know I miss you guys too again this is

1579
01:06:19,210 --> 01:06:16,550
where I got my start so ya know I it's

1580
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:19,220
it's just such a big community of people

1581
01:06:22,330 --> 01:06:21,290
building each other up instead of

1582
01:06:25,930 --> 01:06:22,340
tearing each other down

1583
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:25,940
so if yeah one is in the area or not in

1584
01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:26,570
the area

1585
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:28,400
you heard it the tickets are still

1586
01:06:32,620 --> 01:06:30,770
available please go to the UFO Congress

1587
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:32,630
I can't recommend it enough and I have

1588
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:36,170
to congratulate you and Karen for for

1589
01:06:41,770 --> 01:06:38,570
pulling this off man I know it can't be

1590
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:41,780
easy but I know how much blood sweat and

1591
01:06:47,110 --> 01:06:44,690
tears you two have put into this so in

1592
01:06:48,730 --> 01:06:47,120
early congratulations and I have no

1593
01:06:51,850 --> 01:06:48,740
doubt it's gonna be amazing

1594
01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:51,860
thank you so much thank you all thank

1595
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:53,060
you for joining me in somewhere in the

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stocks yes my pleasure always fun

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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somewhere in the skies is produced by

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Third Kind productions in association

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with the entertainment one podcast

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network to learn more visit

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Entertainment one podcast calm in

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reality UFOs are seen by people from all

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walks of life every day all around the

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world they've also been officially

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investigated by the US government and by

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governments of several other countries

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too that's just a small element of what

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makes the strange UFO topic so

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incredibly fascinating and fun to

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explore that's what we do on the UFO

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podcast unknown I'm Jason McClellan and

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I invite you to explore the weird and

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wonderful world of UFOs with me and my

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friends and colleagues on unknown

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unknown is available on Apple podcast